Saturday, June 16, 2012

Making a Joule Thief Circuit with Steven Chiverton - Part 2

Continued from the Previous Article

Dude i used to get bad head aches and stuff playing with air core coils so be careful putting higher volts in them..i once put so much in to my coil it cut my radio off 10 feet away and i almost blacked out.. so i killed the power and i was in a state of confusion for like 2 hours after that.. it took a long nap to fix me.
so be careful!!



Above is the latest radiant energy battery charger joule thief  circuit I built from youtube video, the coil I wound 114 turns bifilar wound onto the core I got from xxxx electronics for around $9 
and on one of my tests I adjusted the circuits 1k pot till the neon lite up and no heating was felt in the power transistor since ive put it on a heatsink, a thick heatsink but when I used my 12 volts sla battery with just over 10 volts left in it I got over 131 volts out from it,  14 times more output than I did get from the input  ill conduct more tests  and put them down here , to see what outputs I can get from various inputs .


the 12 volts 7.2 amp hour rechargeable sla battery with just over 10 volts left in it I got over 131 dc volts output from the latest joule thief circiut.
Here are the results for various batteries and voltage inputs
1aa battery 1.5 volts type 1.04 volts left in it I got 7.55 volts output from the joule thief
a23 energizer battery 12 volts type had 9.62 volts left in it and I got an unusual reading of 4.23 volts out a voltage loss
yellow click rechargeable 1.5 volts battery, 1.09 volts left in it I got 1.20 volts out from the radiant energy battery charger joule thief.
Ag13 button cell battery 0.397 volts left in it I got 01.3 millivolts out of it
L1154 button cell 1.304 volts left in it  I got 4.50 volts out of it through the joule thief circiut.

Ag10 button cell battery it had 1.16 volts left in it  I got 4.3 volts out of it through the joule thief circiut.
357a button cell battery  with 1.359 volts left in it  I got 5.55 volts out of it from the joule thief circuit.


Latest joule thief circiut test . with the potentiometer turned up I adjusted it  till the neon come on and then I adjusted it to the max and the voltage reading was over 145 volts and the neon stayed lite and when I turned it down it still stayed lite like it was getting extra voltage all of a sudden . and the circiut unlike the other dident even make that high to low pitch sound , when I adjusted it fully up and down so I don’t know why . so after I got the neon lite it stayed on when I turned the pot full down and back up again . and no heat was felt in the transistor after the quick test.

With the 1k pot set to highest resistance the voltage output was 132.6 volts  and the neon is not lit  till I turned the pot resistance down to  a level where the voltage has increased to around 137.0 volts,  and voltage rises around here again to 145.7 with the neon still lit.
Turning the pot resistance down the neon dims at around 91.0 volts and when turn the pot down more to decrease the resistance of the pot more , the neon gets bright again like its getting more voltage and the circuit then squeals like a camera photflash circuit charging up its high voltage  photo flash capacitor.
The voltage was then 96.8 volts and climbing.  And by reducing the resistance more circuit appears to squeal more,  and the neon is still lit bright even when the voltage is at 93.6 volts.
 And when I turn the pot up to increase resistance neon got brighter at 73.9 volts,  and the voltage rose to 99.8 volts  turning pot up more to increase resistance  neon got brighter at 152.8 volts  to 153.5 volts and when pot was back at full resistance the voltage was then  159.4 volts then it dropped to 135.5 volts.

Note that when the pot resistance was turned down to the point that the neon comes on  neon stayed lite  all the time despite getting dim here and there then going bright again during the adjustments  and the neon never went out again despite adjusting the pot fully to the end either way  during the tests  the only way to make the neon go out is to  disconnect the battery  lead , the test can be started again by turning the pot up full, then  connect the battery lead then slowly reduce the pots resistance till the neon lights again .


Ive recharged my sla battery up to 12.48 volts and then I fired up both joule thiefs and found that even with my latest radiant battery charger joule thief im getting less voltage output for more voltage input and before it was more voltage output from less voltage input and since the latest tests the battery has gone from 12.48 to 12.1 volts  I used .47 volts so far , this is getting strange  and dureing the testing the voltage output did go over 100 volts but dident make it to the higher voltage I got before I topped up the 12 volts slr battery. As for the fluro bulb it only lit up a little bit more but not fully so I need more current or voltage to light it fully

First joule theif battery charging tests . results
Button cell battery  ag13 battery brand name sun king this battery had only 00.6 volts left in it , I used my first joule thief battery charger to tests it and after a count of 20 it gained enough power to power one of my small joule thief circuits it now has 1.48 volts in it for charging for 20 seconds .

I tried to charge 2 other button cell batteries but they are to far gone and lose charge fast I decided to try and recharge this tiny watch battery out of one of my watches and its been flat for ages so after 3 seconds of charging , it got hot so I let it cool down and I tested it on a small joule thief circuit and it got  enough power in it to light the led so it worked 3 seconds was the fastest charging time for such a small battery now my watch is going again. And I didnt get the details of this battery and measure its charge left and after I charged it for 3 seconds .



The 2 button cells that couldn't be charged I charged them for a count of twenty like the other one  but when I turned the potentiometer up towards the full to try get more voltage into it, it reverse charged so I ended up with a negative charge when I measured its voltage but still it kept going down so id say they are to dead or no good  at all . it was a good thing I halted the charge time for my tiny watch battery after 3 seconds when it started to get hot otherwise it may of exploded but now its perfect ill note the day I charged it up today monday may 24th 2010  just before 7 o clock in the evening I think lets see how long its lasts for till it runs flat .


Ive seen and saved a youtube video on the a23 12 volts energizer and the man dismantled one and it had no carbon and carbon rods in it but it had 8 unmarked button cell batteries in it.   my  a23 energizer I tried to charge it up more as it was just over the ten volts in it but I managed to get just over 11 volts into it and the voltage was dropping so something was wrong inside it , so I dismantled it and indeed found 8 button cells inside it  one had green corrosion  around it and its voltage wasnt steady it appeared to climb slowly and the rest all had over one volts in them and  I measure everyone of them and also I was able to power my small joule thief with them and get the 3.3 volts led to light up to  they will come in handy to .


Below is a picture of one of my smaller joule thief circuits  built from a schematic from the net I designed the printed circuit board for it and  notice the modified plastic cloths line peg, I use that to hold button cells for testing and the strip of blue tac at the top is my button cell holder.
 Most of the batteries on the strip of blue tac was from inside the small 12 volts a23 energizer battery.


One of my a23 energizer button cells was getting a bit low it had a measured charge of only 1.179 volts left in it.  this made the joule thief led dim so I used my larger radiant joule thief battery charger and charged  it up till it got hot , then I re measured that battery s voltage and it worked , I successfully charged it up to 1.346 volts and it now works better and the joule thief  white 3.3 volts led is brighter now.

 Below is my 2 radiant battery charger joule thief circiuts the one on the left without a heatsink is the one I used to seccessfully charge my a23 energizer button cell up with. Which was one of 8 button cells found inside the 12 volts a23 energizer battery.


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